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Chaos Theory Pvp · Feb 28, 2012, 01:39 AM // 01:39

Ok recently there's been a lot of players claiming to be quiting Guildwars and selling up all their hard earned items before they do something else I guess.
Now what gets to me is this, they nearly always demand a full or over the top price for their goods, I guess that it must be unbearable to make a loss on an item from a purchase some years ago in most cases those items are going to go into inactiveness forever. But why?? your quiting are you not?

So guys/gals get serious and let someone else enjoy those amazing items you have rusting away.

TIA

StormDragonZ · Feb 28, 2012, 01:48 AM // 01:48

1) Tell everyone you're quitting GW and have <insert lots of cool items here> available to sell.
2) Ask prices 60-100% more than what most people sell for them anyways.
3) ????
4) Profit! because you're not quitting and just selling useless crap you don't want/need anyways.

Something like that, right?

Enchanted Krystal · Feb 28, 2012, 02:27 AM // 02:27

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Originally Posted by Chaos Theory Pvp

So guys/gals get serious and let someone else enjoy those amazing items you have rusting away.

TIA

I agree with Chaos. Keep the price realistic & visit this link to find a prospective buyer.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/buy-f37.html

If it's a "good home" you want for your item's, many people can help out.

AngelWJedi · Feb 28, 2012, 02:33 AM // 02:33

yeah i always thought this was a stupid move. if your quiting then you dont need the money from the item.but if your coming back then you shouldnt sell your items.

spun ducky · Feb 28, 2012, 02:36 AM // 02:36

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Originally Posted by AngelWJedi

yeah i always thought this was a stupid move. if your quiting then you dont need the money from the item.but if your coming back then you shouldnt sell your items.

I heard through the grapevine some people sell their gold for real cash and I would think that is the actual route besides the ones just going for price hype.

Kunder · Feb 28, 2012, 02:42 AM // 02:42

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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

1) Tell everyone you're quitting GW and have <insert lots of cool items here> available to sell.
2) Ask prices 60-100% more than what most people sell for them anyways.
3) ????
4) Profit! because you're not quitting and just selling useless crap you don't want/need anyways.

Something like that, right?

Yes, just like the businesses in my area that have been "going out of business" for the past 5 years.

Then when you get done have a "returned to guild wars, paying top dollar for x". Then offer 75% of the going rate.

Clay Brick · Feb 28, 2012, 03:14 AM // 03:14

I've "quit" several times and end up giving things away because if I'm not playing the game or going inactive for awhile, anything that doesn't pertain to HoM, doesn't have serious value, or takes too long to sell for the value it's worth, I give away! By serious value I mean <15-30k.

zwei2stein · Feb 28, 2012, 12:13 PM // 12:13

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Originally Posted by Chaos Theory Pvp

But why?? your quiting are you not?

So guys/gals get serious and let someone else enjoy those amazing items you have rusting away.

TIA

If you want to continue in GW2 liquidating your assets and tuning it into HOM related items is smart move.

So you of course sell your stuff, use that money to buy other stuff that you can put to hom or use to titles and then you quit for good with empty pockets.

Same thing as salvaging your FoW set when you want money to fuel title. (make sure you get runes and insignia out with perfect salvage kit first to increase chance of getting ectos. make double sure that you actually have it in HoM)

Hmm, I think it is 15k salvage time for me! Wee! Also, Naked hero time! Dye sale time! Salvaging crystaline swords for 30hp upgrades was never so much fun before :-)

system.fan · Feb 28, 2012, 12:35 PM // 12:35

People Quitting GW -> Sell ingame shit for ecto -> Sell ecto shit for real money -> Enjoy RL....
And more Ecto = More $$$....

thats how it is in 90% of all quitters, as long as they arent too lazy to do that.
Since if you quit... u dont have to RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing care if your acc gets banned for ebaying or not. (That's not MY opinion, but thats what few ppl did i know)

In case i'd quit (again^^) id give away everything for free, just like i did 2 times before already...

EPO Bot · Feb 28, 2012, 01:28 PM // 13:28

If i ever were to delete my one character, i would throw everything i have in the trash.

But really, i will never delete her. EVER

TheGizzy · Feb 28, 2012, 01:35 PM // 13:35

They're selling the account, and the gold, for real cash. There are a number of RMT sites that will pay cash for a legitimate account & gold/ectos on the account.

In reality, it's a form of theft - accounts do not belong to the player using them, they belong to ANet who is allowing players use of their service & digital content for the price of an access key (your CD key).

RMTs are the bane of the gaming world. They are the primary reason accounts are hacked, and the primary cause of financial "crashes" in various games. As far as I'm concerned, they're criminals - both the RMTs and their "clients."

Rooms Of Ruin · Feb 28, 2012, 01:42 PM // 13:42

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Originally Posted by AngelWJedi

yeah i always thought this was a stupid move. if your quiting then you dont need the money from the item.

I thought this was obvious:

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

If you want to continue in GW2 liquidating your assets and tuning it into HOM related items is smart move.

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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

1) Tell everyone you're quitting GW and have <insert lots of cool items here> available to sell.
2) Ask prices 60-100% more than what most people sell for them anyways.
3) ????
4) Profit! because you're not quitting and just selling useless crap you don't want/need anyways.

Something like that, right?

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Originally Posted by spun ducky

I heard through the grapevine some people sell their gold for real cash and I would think that is the actual route besides the ones just going for price hype.

Nope, you couldn't be more wrong. I sold all my unnecessary stuff off (at a considerable discount) to fund a second HOM and moved on to the D3beta until retail D3 & GW2. Trust me, people like me are not coming back or involved in any of these ridiculous conspiracies. If you're moving to GW2 and you've already filled your monuments, the longevity of the game is over; everything is soon to be useless if you're migrating to a new game.

“It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end” -Ursula K. LeGuin

spun ducky · Feb 28, 2012, 07:14 PM // 19:14

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Originally Posted by Rooms Of Ruin

Nope, you couldn't be more wrong. I sold all my unnecessary stuff off (at a considerable discount) to fund a second HOM and moved on to the D3beta until retail D3 & GW2. Trust me, people like me are not coming back or involved in any of these ridiculous conspiracies. If you're moving to GW2 and you've already filled your monuments, the longevity of the game is over; everything is soon to be useless if you're migrating to a new game.

I am sorry that you take a blind eye to one of the most obvious things in most mmorpgs. If it wasn't against the rules of guru I could easily show you how big the account/gold selling industry actually is and I have known a lot of people who "Cashed Out" long before GW2 was ever mentioned much less now with a sequel looming.

If you ever get curious do some google searches I think your mind would be blown at how many take this route especially after they have filled HoM.

Rooms Of Ruin · Mar 01, 2012, 01:40 PM // 13:40

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Originally Posted by spun ducky

I am sorry that you take a blind eye to one of the most obvious things in most mmorpgs. If it wasn't against the rules of guru I could easily show you how big the account/gold selling industry actually is and I have known a lot of people who "Cashed Out" long before GW2 was ever mentioned much less now with a sequel looming.

If you ever get curious do some google searches I think your mind would be blown at how many take this route especially after they have filled HoM.

See the MASSIVE outcry against Blizzard when they announced the RMAH in Diablo 3 and you will find the answer to how many people play online games for the sole purpose of "cashing out." I've played with thousands of people since my online rpg obsession started in the 90's, and the number of people looking to sell on ebay as their end game verses the rest of the player base is comparatively low. Remember, this thread is discussing player exodus sales, not bot farming companies. Paranoid accusations unanimously against an entire community of players, who are legitimately making a last scrambling effort to liquidate for their HOM in the shadow of the looming beta, is insulting.

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Originally Posted by spun ducky

I heard through the grapevine some people sell their gold for real cash

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Originally Posted by spun ducky

I have known a lot of people who "Cashed Out"

Those statements are inconsistent, btw.

Nerel · Mar 01, 2012, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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Originally Posted by Rooms Of Ruin

Those statements are inconsistent, btw.

I think Spun Ducky was just being coy and not dropping names, but he's right about the players cashing out, selling ectos/zkeys etc for cash, it is pretty rampant, even the illustrious QQ forums use to be littered with this stuff *cough* QQonomy *cough* yeah, lots of recognizable Guru names there...

Rooms Of Ruin · Mar 01, 2012, 03:53 PM // 15:53

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Originally Posted by Nerel

it is pretty rampant

Keep in mind, if 10,000 people are breaking the rules out of a 1,000,000 person player base, that is a mere 1%, hardly "rampant". Anyway, this is a pointless argument without any real statistical data. Go walk throughout the game for a month and ask 1,000 people a day if they sell GW gold for money; I'm betting you'll find your generalizations to be greatly exaggerated.

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Originally Posted by Nerel

lots of recognizable Guru names there...

Guru is a tiny fraction of the Guild Wars Community.

Nerel · Mar 01, 2012, 04:21 PM // 16:21

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Originally Posted by Rooms Of Ruin

Keep in mind, if 10,000 people are breaking the rules out of a 1,000,000 person player base, that is a mere 1%, hardly "rampant". Anyway, this is a pointless argument without any real statistical data. Go walk throughout the game for a month and ask 1,000 people a day if they sell GW gold for money; I'm betting you'll find your generalizations to be greatly exaggerated.

Guru is a tiny fraction of the Guild Wars Community.

Yes, if you're relying on people in Guild Wars to openly admit violating the game's ToS in a manner that will see their account suspended or terminated, along with whatever wealth it still holds... then yes, I'm sure you won't find many people who participate in RMT.

My point about the recognizable Guru names was just to say that everyone with HALF A CLUE realizes that the trade is going on. Heck Anet Staffers have posted to QQ... and they're still happy to give exclusive interviews to them even though they facilitate RMT trades.

Point is... lots of people do it, it's hardly a secret, and there are a heck of a lot of forums/websites dedicated to it.

But yeah, ignore it's frequency and go back to whatever rant or supposition you were making, no need to waste your time any further.

tonini · Mar 01, 2012, 08:35 PM // 20:35

iv seen and heard of a few ppl selling everything off to help friends out reaching thier hom goals this definitely isnt a majority thing but another reason why ppl would want to get top prices for their items

nuclear_herring · Mar 07, 2012, 09:32 AM // 09:32

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Originally Posted by tonini

iv seen and heard of a few ppl selling everything off to help friends out reaching thier hom goals this definitely isnt a majority thing but another reason why ppl would want to get top prices for their items

That's what I'm doing at the moment. I'm part of an 8 person Alliance (well, 2 guilds, all members of extended family) and by far the most active player among us. Having accumulated wealth for the past 5 1/2 years I'm finally splurging, selling everything that isn't HoM related to buy things for my family so they can at least get to 30/50 in HoM.

Mcsnake85 · Mar 09, 2012, 12:37 PM // 12:37

There is another thing to consider: A lot of people quit for months or years but then they come back and when they come back they need money/ectos to restart.
I did it for a lot of games, and i always get advantages, why:
Do you guys remember the price of armbraces about 2 years ago? they were around 50e.
Now lets suppose that <insert a name> had 100 armbraces 2 years ago. He decide to quit for X amount of time, so he sold everything: 100 armbraces * 50e = 5000e + maybe he sold equipment too.
Now after 2 years he come back in game : A lot of updates, new storylines, new weapons ecc + Hall of Monuments points (for GW2). With the 5000e he can buy 200 armbraces at least he doubled his wealth, and all weapons and items are dropped in price: Emerald blade,BDSs,Obsidian Blade ecc...
At this point he can restart without any kind of problems.